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Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:56 am
by wa5
Thanks for the Triple helping this week :).

I read somewhere (might have been "world war Z") that North Korea had / has a huge "underground city" set up under the capital ... th_korea-0

What about the Bex Salt mine in Switzerland, it is pretty big apparently

Given the probable death of all plant life above the water line and the lack of sun getting to plant life under water, how will this affect oxygen production in "your" world?

Given the temperature, What about wild fires, would the steam/mist in the lower atmosphere keep forests, and citys "damp" enough to rule out fires?

This will be the ultimate expression of global warming.... does Al Gore survive? :) and how does said global warming affect low lying shelfers.. (excluding India which was a flood, not a rising tide..... or was it?)

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:36 am
by Saxon Dog
Salt mines are the best shelter. They are generally large, since salt is a high demand commodity thats fairly easy to dig. You can put a lot of people in one and have room left over for animals and all the fodder they'd need. And they're very dry and stable. Think about it, if there was any groundwater, it'd be salt water, not a salt mine. So they're pretty much all in geologically quiet areas. You still have to pump fresh air to the mine tho, and that air would need to be cooled, so you'll need a source of cool, and thats generally groundwater, which might have to come from a well at some distance.

Pretty much everything on the surface would be cooked. I'd imagine some of the smallest stuff would survive, bacteria, real small bugs, burrowing rodents might sneak a few thru. Ocean life would get hit hard but come out the best long term. No food coming down would kill off some species and cause a ripple effect in the food chain.

There would probably still be some oxygen producing microbes. The balance in the atmosphere would swing towards CO2 tho, since volcanoes would still be erupting, and no trees breathing it in. But After Man comes back and re-plants the whole planet, the CO2 rich air would cause them to thrive til it reached balance again.

The tides are going to come up due to thermal expansion of the oceans. That takes time tho. Its a big ocean.

N Korea will be in Year 2. A lot of places have Bomb Shelter Cities already built, some from the Cold War, some from WW2. The Maginot Line would be a good shelter.

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:01 pm
by Saxon Dog
Good site on some of the Missile Silos that the military would likely put their own people into in the event.
Not sure how many of them have since been filled in. Looks like there were about 2000 in the USA, and probably 200 Command bunkers associated. They're all pretty small tho. 12 ft diameter for the silos, maybe 50 foot deep of useful height. How many people would you cram into a 5 room house for several years of waiting?

the Command Center - 1 big room, you'd really have to like the people in there with you

South Dakota is Shelter Rich by the way
they also have Wind Cave (132 miles of passage) and Jewel Cave (148 miles and increasing every day they explore) -

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:38 pm
by Saxon Dog

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:28 am
by wa5
I'm thinking that would be a little above my budget..:)

How about Vietnamese war era hand dug tunnels?

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:13 am
by Saxon Dog
Some places have a wealth of possible shelters. Former Communist countries and dictaorships generally have lots of well built air raid shelters. Iraq has a LOT of Saddam era tunnels.

I wouldnt want to spend a year in a dirt tunnel, unless I had no other choice.

Biggest problem for any hole in the ground would be stocking it with supplies and not letting in too many mouths. Thanks to Modern Economics, there arent HUGE piles of food laying around many places. The stores want everything fresh even if it has to come from far away. Most large food processing plants only have that days product on site.

Once the trucks stop, there basically isnt much food left.

Keep sending me cave and tunnel info. I find something interesting in every one I see.

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:43 am
by Saxon Dog
Research leads to...

Yes, Vietnam has hand dug tunnels - 75 miles at Cu Chi -

and a Park with 2 of the largest caves in the World !

The biggest chamber of Son Doong is over five kilometers in length, 200 meters high and 150 meters wide. With these dimensions, Son Doong overtakes Deer Cave in Malaysia to take the title of the world's largest cave.

Phong Nha Cave is a cave in Phong Nha-Ke Bang National Park, a UNESCO's World Heritage Site in Quang Binh Province, Vietnam. This cave has been recognized the most beautiful one in this national park. This cave is 7729 m long, contains 14 grottos, with a 13,969 m-long underground river. The scientists have surveyed 44.5 km of grottos in this cave so far, but tourists can only penetrate to a distance of 1500 m.

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:51 pm
by Saxon Dog
Sorry I've had to slow down on the story folks.
Been a very busy Dog last couple of weeks.
Have started shooting my movie, and everyone wants something.
But its relaxing to write, so more is coming. Promise.

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:30 am
by wa5
Thats what I want to hear... ... Keep it coming.

If the movie is any where near as good as 667, I guess I'll be seeing it in my local theatre soon.

Re: 667 Comments

PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:10 pm
by Saxon Dog
2 entries today - they needed to be together
maybe another one tomorrow or Sunday - since the plot is heating up.

Now, back to the Zombie Movie Making Business :ugeek: